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Post by erumpere on Nov 23, 2014 10:20:39 GMT
I found this way of determining your chart ruler... I found the instructions a bit unclear but the way I figure you're supposed to do it is: - Write down the points (sign and degree) of your Sun, Moon, AC, Part of Fortune, and Prenatal Syzygy - Prenatal Syzygy is the full moon or new moon prior to your birth (whichever is closest.) For example, I was born about 9 degrees before the full moon so my prenatal syzygy was the new moon before that, which I figured out was on the 28th of January or something. So you find the sign and degree of the moon on that date, when it was conjunct the sun. (This is the hardest step to me haha, involves looking up moon phases for the year, lots of guessing and chart generating until you get the Moon and Sun on the same degree) - Now you find the essential dignities of the planets at each of those 5 points, I use this table. Planet that rules the sign gets 5 points. Planet exalted in the sign gets 4. Planet who rules the triplicity (ie. in a night/nocturnal chart, Moon rules Virgo’s triplicity) gets 3. Planet who rules the term the degree falls in gets 2. Planet who rules the face the degree falls in gets 1. - Now we add 7 points for the day ruler and 6 for the night ruler, these can be calculated here (make sure to change the location in the black box at the top under 'Planetary Days and Hours', and click in the 'Select another date' box above the big planet glyphs to choose your birthday) or here. - Finally, add the following amounts to each planet depending on what house they are in (someone said to use the Whole Sign system for this because that's what they were using back then? You could use both that and whatever you usually use and see what resulting Almuten fits you best. Personally, I’d go with whatever Whole Sign gives me): 1st house: 12 points, 2nd: 6 points, 3rd: 3, 4th: 9, 5th: 7, 6th: 1, 7th: 10, 8th: 4, 9th: 5, 10th: 11, 11th: 8, 12th: 2. It's really simpler than it seems, I've done it a few times and the process is embedded into my brain, it's like maths. Basically: the 5 points, essential dignities, day and hour rulers, houses. So before I did it, I predicted either the Moon or Saturn after reading the descriptions, and I got Saturn, which is pretty cool... Not sure about this guardian angel business... But I very much like the idea of "(retiring) from society, (investigating) hidden things and (suffering) adversity" to travel along my spiritual path. What Almuten do you all get from this method?
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Post by erumpere on Nov 26, 2014 2:59:42 GMT
@lailanights17, sounds like you're just destined to be the unwilling leader then... Maybe you'll grow into it? And/or maybe the environment that's shaped you has suppressed that part of you so much that you don't even recognise it in yourself, or maybe there's more ways to interpret all the metaphysical factors and for you, the interpretations people have seen fit to include in their descriptions are the wrong ones for you... Not sure what other ones there'd be for the Sun though, apart from generosity/spreading goodness and light to the masses or something.
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Post by Franka on Nov 26, 2014 23:45:19 GMT
erumpere This is all very interesting but my brain is refusing to understand it right now. I was wondering if you could help me out. I already don't understand the Syzygy, I was born when the moon was full, but it was already on 24 degrees (it started 3 days earlier), so how many degrees should I take in that case? From my planets I only know that my moon is in fall. If you could give me some pointers or more thank you! Here I all my degrees. Sun 19 Tau 20' 06" House 12 Moon 24 Sco 10' 12" House 6 Mercury 09 Tau 36' 41" R House 11 Venus 06 Ari 51' 38" House 11 Mars 14 Pis 26' 04" House 10 Jupiter 08 Can 34' 03" House 1 Saturn 25 Cap 18' 58" R House 8 Uranus 09 Cap 18' 13" R House 7 Neptune 14 Cap 25' 26" R House 7 Pluto 16 Sco 18' 49" R House 6 Chiron 12 Can 48' 23" House 1 Lilith 20 Sco 53' 29" House 6 Node 10 Aqu 57' 07" R House 9 P. of Fortune 03 Cap 13' 47" House 7 Vertex 14 Sco 45' 55" House 6
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Post by erumpere on Nov 28, 2014 0:10:41 GMT
Franka Ok, so, for the Syzygy business, I've estimated (using the picture of your chart in that thread and a guess of 8:05am and Amsterdam) that the exact opposition between the Moon and Sun happened at 18 degrees, so I used 18 degrees Scorpio as your Syzygy point. And then I had all of the points needed to do all the dignities, and (after adding in points for houses) I got 24 points for Venus and 30 for Mars and under 15 for the rest, and then for the day and hour rulers, I get Jupiter and Mars, aaand in total, the clear winner is Mars with 36 points. Sorry for my subpar explanations, I'm not a natural teacher - no planets in Gemini, and only Pluto in Sag I'll attach a photo of my working out, just cause I can. So "If it is Mars, s/he will fight in order to dominate." Does that sound like you?? @lailanights17, well at least it does give an explanation that some people can be "not fully developed and expressing the negative side" and all those astrological factors you mention.... everything seems stacked against you haha... I guess there's a lot of contradiction in the world, and not everyone has a clear path to follow... We are supposed to learn from Saturn and overcome his effects, right? Maybe somehow you'll do that and then become more Arian? My experience of Saturn in Aries hasn't been fun, and 3 12th house planets sounds uncomfortable, so I wish you a lot of good luck on your journey Attachments:
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Post by Franka on Dec 4, 2014 20:17:59 GMT
erumpere: You're too kind! Doing all the trouble for me Math really makes me dizzy I'm very surprised at the outcome because I'm a very submissive person, I did a conflict management style test today and my result was Avoiding/Accomodating. Maybe dominance is something I need to learn.
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Post by erumpere on Dec 5, 2014 1:51:15 GMT
Franka haha I really love doing that sort of stuff, actually, and maths has been my favourite school subject since I was a kid. Hmm. Maybe you have some connection with Mars other than it corresponding to your nature... Renaissance-astrology says "Once the planetary ruler of the personal daimon is identified then we have a good idea of the type of spiritual path we are best suited to, and a beginning idea of the method of contacting the personal daimon. For example, if Saturn is the almuten figuris, our path and method of contact is to retire from society, investigate hidden things and suffer adversity." So maybe you don't necessarily need to have a personal affinity for the planet. It's unfortunate the site doesn't give any more information on the significance of each planet as the almuten... It also says (as best as I can glean) that the planet governs your personal daimon and so the way of worshiping and summoning, as well as contacting, it will be in a way that's related to the planet.... So for Mars, maybe it is summoned and worshiped by some violent acts, sacrifice or something lol. Not the most appealing spiritual path.... I also think finding the actual name of the daimon using one's chart would be a fun thing to do, but probably quite time consuming and/or confusing if this is anything to go by... I do think this is very all interesting but it is veering out of astrology and into... other occult stuff, as well as way out of my depth haha.
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Post by rosie79 on Oct 22, 2016 15:40:03 GMT
I found this way of determining your chart ruler... I found the instructions a bit unclear but the way I figure you're supposed to do it is: - Write down the points (sign and degree) of your Sun, Moon, AC, Part of Fortune, and Prenatal Syzygy - Prenatal Syzygy is the full moon or new moon prior to your birth (whichever is closest.) For example, I was born about 9 degrees before the full moon so my prenatal syzygy was the new moon before that, which I figured out was on the 28th of January or something. So you find the sign and degree of the moon on that date, when it was conjunct the sun. (This is the hardest step to me haha, involves looking up moon phases for the year, lots of guessing and chart generating until you get the Moon and Sun on the same degree) - Now you find the essential dignities of the planets at each of those 5 points, I use this table. Planet that rules the sign gets 5 points. Planet exalted in the sign gets 4. Planet who rules the triplicity (ie. in a night/nocturnal chart, Moon rules Virgo’s triplicity) gets 3. Planet who rules the term the degree falls in gets 2. Planet who rules the face the degree falls in gets 1. - Now we add 7 points for the day ruler and 6 for the night ruler, these can be calculated here (make sure to change the location in the black box at the top under 'Planetary Days and Hours', and click in the 'Select another date' box above the big planet glyphs to choose your birthday) or here. - Finally, add the following amounts to each planet depending on what house they are in (someone said to use the Whole Sign system for this because that's what they were using back then? You could use both that and whatever you usually use and see what resulting Almuten fits you best. Personally, I’d go with whatever Whole Sign gives me): 1st house: 12 points, 2nd: 6 points, 3rd: 3, 4th: 9, 5th: 7, 6th: 1, 7th: 10, 8th: 4, 9th: 5, 10th: 11, 11th: 8, 12th: 2. It's really simpler than it seems, I've done it a few times and the process is embedded into my brain, it's like maths. Basically: the 5 points, essential dignities, day and hour rulers, houses. So before I did it, I predicted either the Moon or Saturn after reading the descriptions, and I got Saturn, which is pretty cool... Not sure about this guardian angel business... But I very much like the idea of "(retiring) from society, (investigating) hidden things and (suffering) adversity" to travel along my spiritual path. What Almuten do you all get from this method? Would you be willing to look for my almutem figuris? I got both Venus and Saturn but not sure it was correct. My birth details jan 4 1979, 10:37 am New Delhi Indiathanks
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