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Post by tauriescorp on Aug 8, 2014 7:55:41 GMT
Hi everyone. This is my Chart! I hope you can help me out on this one.
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Post by Calli on Aug 10, 2014 2:47:16 GMT
How may we be of assistance, my friend?
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Post by tauriescorp on Aug 22, 2014 7:36:23 GMT
Is there a connection of our charts and our kinda hidden self motives? Like me, I do not know if this sounds crazy or irrational but I feel that this has to be mine and that should be me thing? Selfish brat me. But the good thing is that I only keep it to myself. I do not tell it to anyone because they might not understand. Why do I always feel that I had to satisfy something inside me just to make me whole. MAYBE my SUN will tell it all but is there a thing in my chart to add this thing up?
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Post by Calli on Aug 25, 2014 1:08:49 GMT
Alright, so what stood out most was and and My first reaction was that your Twelfth House, Neptune, Pluto, Eighth House, or Harsh Aspects between your Sun, Moon, and Mars may play a role. Then I explored your chart. Here's things I believe may contribute to that: - Moon (in Cancer) Opposition Neptune (in Fifth House)
- Mars Conjunct Midheaven
- Saturn Opposition Midheaven
Midheaven, similar to the Ascendant, plays a role in how we portray ourselves. While the Ascendant eludes to "who" we want to be seen as, the Midheaven indicates "what" we want to be seen as. Mars and Saturn are traditionally considered "malefic" planets, in that their influence can sometimes be associated with damage and loss. So, I think there's a lot of internal conflict surrounding the area of "what" you try to be seen as - especially potent, because you have a Cancer Moon (lot's of feels) and Taurus Sun (Earth Signs are always quite reserved). You have a lot going on under your surface, but don't want to be seen as "weak," "over-emotional," or anything of that sort (Virgo Ascendant contributes to that, as well).
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Post by Selene on Aug 25, 2014 7:00:18 GMT
I think that Saturn in the third house might also restrict communication. Like Calli said, it's considered a "malefic" planet, and the way I look at it is basically an area that challenges you in life - something that's really hard for you early on in life, and you have to go through rough lessons learning to master this area of life. You may feel "unable" to communicate when you really need to. The fact that you also have Pluto there adds to this, I would say. I look at Pluto and Saturn as being the "power" planets. I have Pluto in the third house (and Virgo AC) as well, and can relate to what you say about keeping things to yourself because you don't think anyone would understand. From what I have read about this placement, those with Pluto in the third house can be very powerful communicators... though not necessarily through speech, but writing. Basically, you have a lot to communicate, but you, in a way, feel restricted from doing so. You may also be interested in taboo or controversial topics (since we *are* talking about Pluto here). You do a lot of intense research but keep it quite hidden. This is in general a placement with a lot of secrecy involved. It's like what you want to keep hidden (Pluto) are your thoughts (third house). And both your Pluto and Saturn are in Scorpio... which only adds to this element of secrecy and privacy. It's interesting how your house cusps line up almost exactly with the sign cusps... it's like your third house is all Scorpio. And with two planets that carry such a heavy influence there... there's a lot for you to hide in the third house. As for what you say about feeling "selfish," maybe look to your Aries in the eighth house. Aries is the "me first" sign, usually focusing on their own needs first. With two personal planets there, Venus and Mercury, this may make you put yourself first in some areas of life. Particularly in love. With what you say about "this should be mine" - I'd say that's especially Venus in Aries. Venus is what you want/find attractive/love, and Aries takes what they want, LOL. However this is not something known about you - planets in the eighth house really makes them "hidden." It's also interesting that you have Mercury in the eighth house while having Pluto in the third (so it's in... mutual reception, is that the correct term, Calli? XD). I think this would even further your tendency towards "hidden motives." So you both love (Venus) and communicate (Mercury) aggressively/on bad days selfishly (Aries), but all in a very hidden way (eighth house). In my view of it, the eighth house takes any planets that inhabit it and makes them really private. I'd say your eighth house is even more relevant to your interests than your third house - I think the combination of Venus/Mercury in Aries in eighth really fits your description. Hiding your self-motivated desires and thoughts - good way to summarize that combo. Moon in Cancer's also an interesting placement... right at home there. Must make you a really emotional person, but of course that's quite hidden considering your other placements. And like Calli said, the Virgo ascendant definitely contributes to keeping things "hidden" - puts on a mask of wanting to be seen as rational, in control, etc. And probably also makes you shy around strangers, but I think it's the house placements (and the aspects Calli mentioned) that paint a picture of your deeper personality, and how you're secretive even around people you know well. I don't know if you're on Tumblr - if you are, you've probably already seen these - but here are some articles from astrolocherry you might find helpful- Pluto in the third house - x x Saturn in the third house Mercury in the eight house
Also, here's an article about Venus in Aries - take this with a grain of salt, because remember that while you may feel a desire to act like this inwardly, you likely don't act like it outwardly.
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Post by Calli on Aug 26, 2014 2:36:34 GMT
It's also interesting that you have Mercury in the eighth house while having Pluto in the third (so it's in... mutual reception, is that the correct term, Calli? XD). As far as I know Mutual Reception is only applicable by Sign? In which case it'd have to be, like, Mercury in Scorpio / Pluto in Gemini. That does seem like it would be a connection, though, if not a slightly "lesser" version of Mutual Reception. If I find any more information I will let you know!
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Post by tauriescorp on Aug 26, 2014 6:04:08 GMT
The fact that you also have Pluto there adds to this, I would say. I look at Pluto and Saturn as being the "power" planets. I have Pluto in the third house (and Virgo AC) as well, and can relate to what you say about keeping things to yourself because you don't think anyone would understand. From what I have read about this placement, those with Pluto in the third house can be very powerful communicators... though not necessarily through speech, but writing. Basically, you have a lot to communicate, but you, in a way, feel restricted from doing so. You may also be interested in taboo or controversial topics (since we *are* talking about Pluto here). You do a lot of intense research but keep it quite hidden. This is in general a placement with a lot of secrecy involved. It's like what you want to keep hidden (Pluto) are your thoughts (third house). I totally relate to this pretty well Selene. I am not really good at verbalizing things and most of those I know told me I am such a lame story teller (well at least they are honest and appreciate that.) I compensate my expression of thoughts through writing poetry or drawing or art. those that uses the hands. And well you are right as well. My parents are too strict I feel I am restricted too much about every thing I wanted to know. I love learning but they always tell me that it is inappropriate to know this or to know that. My interest in astrology is a secret. They will never understand.
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Post by tauriescorp on Aug 26, 2014 6:13:14 GMT
So, I think there's a lot of internal conflict surrounding the area of "what" you try to be seen as - especially potent, because you have a Cancer Moon (lot's of feels) and Taurus Sun (Earth Signs are always quite reserved). You have a lot going on under your surface, but don't want to be seen as "weak," "over-emotional," or anything of that sort (Virgo Ascendant contributes to that, as well). Feeling the internal battle between how I feel and how I suppose to think and react about it is kinda exhausting Calli. I am now thinking that it already is part of who I am and cannot change it at all, how will I ever use this to my advantage, if it will be helpful in any way. I guess I have to deal with this for the rest of my life, am i right with my conclusion Calli?
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Post by Calli on Aug 26, 2014 19:12:43 GMT
You are in control of yourself, friend. Astrology examines what traits you're likely to develop, but your fate is ultimately in YOUR hands, and yours alone. If you find something you don't like in yourself, or in life you have two options: Accept it, or change it. If you feel that you can not accept the internal battle, because it's emotionally draining, then the other option is to change it! The next step is discovering how. The battle is between: Side A (How you feel) and Side B (How you think you're supposed to act). You could try un-filtering yourself. Or, being more lenient in your filtering. Experiment with showing your true emotions, and expressing more of the raw side of yourself. You may find it more comfortable just let that out, instead of feeling the worry of not expressing yourself accurately. You may also find it useful to analyze why it is you don't want to express those things. Often times, we jump to the worse case scenario (Catastrophic Thinking), but try to logic your way through it. For example, maybe you don't want to cry because you may feel that you'll look weak. Ask yourself; So what! So what if others may think you're weak? (And honestly, they probably won't). Isn't getting all of that emotions a relief? Plus, crying not only releases toxins in your body associated with stress (manganese), but ALSO stimulates the release of hormones that are associated with improved mood (dopamine, serotonin, and certain endorphins, such as leucine-enkephalin which helps control pain). You may also want to seek out an unbiased person with whom you can talk. The best option would be a counselor/therapist. Some schools (even colleges) provide free resources - take advantage of them! These people can help guide you through this process.
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Post by tauriescorp on Aug 27, 2014 8:31:40 GMT
Thanks Calli for the patience to let this be spilled out. I am glad I entered this forum. I will.. Yah you are right, i may only be over thinking about things and stuff. I may need to just lighten up this load and to open up a bit.
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Post by Calli on Aug 27, 2014 17:56:38 GMT
It's what we're all here for! <3
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Post by solarflare on Aug 29, 2014 1:10:43 GMT
Hi everyone. This is my Chart! I hope you can help me out on this one. this chart seems pretty evenly spread out - good balance
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