Post by Franka on Aug 24, 2014 11:23:28 GMT
Aug 24, 2014 7:51:04 GMT @lailanights17 said:
"Childbirth
Violent childbirth often involves Pluto. This includes severe fetal distress, pre-eclampsia with maternal fits and hypertension, post-natal psychosis, toxic shock syndrome, respiratory distress syndrome in the baby, threatened or actual miscarriage. Consider Moon-Pluto patterns, and Pluto at the Ascendant. (X)
Violent childbirth often involves Pluto. This includes severe fetal distress, pre-eclampsia with maternal fits and hypertension, post-natal psychosis, toxic shock syndrome, respiratory distress syndrome in the baby, threatened or actual miscarriage. Consider Moon-Pluto patterns, and Pluto at the Ascendant. (X)
So I think both you, your mom, and your potential brother/sister all having Moon-Pluto contacts, and you and your twin having the South Node in the 3rd house all align somehow. I think it's some combination of sibling, motherly, and potentially family Karma. How, why, and what for I'm not for sure. It could do with something in either a recent past life or many past lives over or maybe even just a particular past life specifically.
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By the way: This just popped up on my dashboard, as if it was meant for me to read:
Moon conjunct Pluto, Moon square Pluto, Moon trine Pluto, and Moon opposite Pluto in transit habitually end one chapter in our lives and begin another. For example, I gave birth to my first-born when transiting Pluto formed a square to my natal Moon. Children are a massive change in a woman's life, indicating the ending of one way of being and the beginning of a new one. The transition into first time motherhood is an emotional and physical transformation for any woman, and these transits often change the female role drastically.
Many other life-altering events that occur under a Moon-Pluto transit that include hysterectomies, uncovering a life threatening illness, suffering from a family bereavement, or experiencing an abusive relationship. She may experience trouble getting pregnant, sexual problems, miscarriage or an abortion. On every level there is a deep and profound loss of some kind.
Both men and women are more prone to sliding into deep depression under Moon-Pluto transits and not really understanding why. In Greek mythology, Hades (Pluto), lord of the underworld is reckoned to a descent into hell, and we are never the same again-we change in significant ways. Pluto transits may pull us down into depression and trauma, but any kind of loss also asks for a period of grieving for what has passed and this is a natural part of the process. We might be less innocent about the world after a plutonian event, but one thing is for sure - we are indefinably changed forever after an emotional loss.
Pluto transits are long lasting and profound and in one lifetime it may travel a third of the chart. When Pluto transited around my chart through the sign of Scorpio forming a trine to the Moon at the age of 14, my mother went into hospital to have a cyst removed from her breast. When Pluto squared the Moon in in 2005 my mother had a hysterectomy, and this is when I gave birth to my first child. In astrology the Moon relates to the mother and to all the other women in our lives and so we sometimes find that life-altering changes are happening to them.
A new life cannot be formed until old forms have been removed, and the Plutonian death-rebirth sequence of transformation often means that we have to recognize the new forms of growth that are appearing. Old forms of existence are outgrown, but we are imbued in the present with depth and maturity. We reach the depths of Pluto and emerge from the experience with more life, experience and a new found understanding on every level. Pluto transits signify leaving one level existence for another, and this usually means that we let go of something in our life. Moon-Pluto transits can bring some form of crisis into our personal lives, and during this time we will experience our emotional life and body more intensely and there might be literal or figurative life and death issues to deal with. We may be even trying to keep our dark and despairing feelings repressed and trying to push them deeper down.
By going underground we understand ourselves at deeper and deeper levels and there is quite frequently an emotional eruption of some kind takes place, releasing any toxic feelings that have been sitting there too long in the mind and body. We might also be overwhelmed and our emotional reactions are far out of proportion to the actual event. With difficult Moon-Pluto transits there may be some nasty experiences with women and a female may enter our life that is poisoness, venomous and betrays us on some level. Moon-Pluto may be experienced through another woman who has strayed with our partner or husband. Men commonly experience such transits through wives and lovers and mothers.
Moon-Pluto transits often signify that this is a good time to get involved with studies involving the deeper levels of the psyche, and clearing away old emotional baggage that we have been holding onto for far too long. They also represent significant periods of soul growth and/or transformation period in a person’s life. The first experience may mean going underground after an experience of loss, sorrow, pain, separation or grief of some kind. We may hate the changes that happen to us but we are wiser afterwards and possess a richer storehouse of inner experience.
Source: The Astrology Place
Many other life-altering events that occur under a Moon-Pluto transit that include hysterectomies, uncovering a life threatening illness, suffering from a family bereavement, or experiencing an abusive relationship. She may experience trouble getting pregnant, sexual problems, miscarriage or an abortion. On every level there is a deep and profound loss of some kind.
Both men and women are more prone to sliding into deep depression under Moon-Pluto transits and not really understanding why. In Greek mythology, Hades (Pluto), lord of the underworld is reckoned to a descent into hell, and we are never the same again-we change in significant ways. Pluto transits may pull us down into depression and trauma, but any kind of loss also asks for a period of grieving for what has passed and this is a natural part of the process. We might be less innocent about the world after a plutonian event, but one thing is for sure - we are indefinably changed forever after an emotional loss.
Pluto transits are long lasting and profound and in one lifetime it may travel a third of the chart. When Pluto transited around my chart through the sign of Scorpio forming a trine to the Moon at the age of 14, my mother went into hospital to have a cyst removed from her breast. When Pluto squared the Moon in in 2005 my mother had a hysterectomy, and this is when I gave birth to my first child. In astrology the Moon relates to the mother and to all the other women in our lives and so we sometimes find that life-altering changes are happening to them.
A new life cannot be formed until old forms have been removed, and the Plutonian death-rebirth sequence of transformation often means that we have to recognize the new forms of growth that are appearing. Old forms of existence are outgrown, but we are imbued in the present with depth and maturity. We reach the depths of Pluto and emerge from the experience with more life, experience and a new found understanding on every level. Pluto transits signify leaving one level existence for another, and this usually means that we let go of something in our life. Moon-Pluto transits can bring some form of crisis into our personal lives, and during this time we will experience our emotional life and body more intensely and there might be literal or figurative life and death issues to deal with. We may be even trying to keep our dark and despairing feelings repressed and trying to push them deeper down.
By going underground we understand ourselves at deeper and deeper levels and there is quite frequently an emotional eruption of some kind takes place, releasing any toxic feelings that have been sitting there too long in the mind and body. We might also be overwhelmed and our emotional reactions are far out of proportion to the actual event. With difficult Moon-Pluto transits there may be some nasty experiences with women and a female may enter our life that is poisoness, venomous and betrays us on some level. Moon-Pluto may be experienced through another woman who has strayed with our partner or husband. Men commonly experience such transits through wives and lovers and mothers.
Moon-Pluto transits often signify that this is a good time to get involved with studies involving the deeper levels of the psyche, and clearing away old emotional baggage that we have been holding onto for far too long. They also represent significant periods of soul growth and/or transformation period in a person’s life. The first experience may mean going underground after an experience of loss, sorrow, pain, separation or grief of some kind. We may hate the changes that happen to us but we are wiser afterwards and possess a richer storehouse of inner experience.
Source: The Astrology Place
Aug 24, 2014 7:51:04 GMT @lailanights17 said:
Oh, wait! I think I found that Pluto-Moon aspect thing! "This aspect indicates powerful karma around mothering and being mothered. .... The soul will probably have experienced difficulty in being born--there is usually great ambivalence about coming into incarnation again. Death may be attracted to birth--either personal death or the emotional trauma of the death of a child coming forward from an other life as a soul memory. ... If you are now a woman with a Pluto-Moon aspect, these difficulties may have carried over as a 'body memory,' resulting in PMS, or a difficult pregnancy, or problems conceiving.
Remember how I talked about how they could've chose a body that they knew would miscarry (for the most part our souls know a general layout of what a particular reincarnation will entail. The soul doesn't know specific events but it does know the types of conditions that will help them deal with Karma.)? I think another possible explanation could be the bolded parts, that "there is usually great ambivalence about coming into incarnation again" part. Maybe your brother/sister faced a "devouring mother" type in a too recent past life and was scared of potentially living that out again with your mother (which I doubt your mother is; the Moon sign is, by the way, how the person views the mother and not always how the mother actually is). While you were willing to take on life and stick things through, maybe your brother/sister couldn't. Or maybe it was the wrong time to reincarnate (that's probably where that ambivalence and/or traumatic death comes into play). Perhaps the conditions they chose to realize their Nodes and Karma didn't exactly match up correctly so they decided to do a "do over" so to speak.
Aug 24, 2014 7:51:04 GMT @lailanights17 said:
So your Ascendant is Gemini. It's interesting that that's your Ascendant while your South Node is in the 3rd house. But I remember glancing at a Nodal site saying that not all of the qualities of the South Node are bad or need to be gotten rid of. You still need a balance so maybe your Ascendant being in Gemini is for you develop the more positive characteristics of the 3rd house/Gemini. Or maybe your Gemini Ascendant is a reflection of being a twin because the nodal houses mirror each other like the Ascendent and Descendant. Gemini-Sagittarius vs Sagittarius-Gemini (even though they're technically Aquarius and Leo, right?).Aug 24, 2014 7:51:04 GMT @lailanights17 said:
This placement is so...interesting. I really don't know what to make of it. Your need to inform obviously comes your Gemini Ascendant and 3rd house South Node. Gemini likes to talk and communicate. Your North Node in the 9th house deals with learning, traveling, and philosophy. So put the two together and you get the need to inform. And I think in order to understand all this a little more is to study where Mercury and Jupiter are in your chart and what aspects they have to them.Aug 24, 2014 7:51:04 GMT @lailanights17 said:
You can also check out your Draconic chart which is suppose to be your recent past life's natal birth chart. Astro.com has that option. It's really cool. Here's my draconic chart:
So my true node is in aries and my south node in libra, but having no experience with draconic charts I don't know what to make of it.
Thanks again for taking an interest ^^