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Post by Selene on Jul 4, 2014 22:32:01 GMT
Let's discuss aspects! I don't really know that much about aspects yet, so I'd love to hear you guys talk about yours and what they mean for you.
One particular thing I'm curious about is how many aspects you have, and what is considered the "average" amount of aspects. Also, in your opinion, what is the effect of having a low amount of aspects versus a high amount of aspects? I have 25 in my chart according to Cafe Astrology (and those are just major ones, meaning only Conjunctions, Squares, Trines, Oppositions, and Sextiles).
Also, what do you think about big aspect shapes? Like Grand Trine, Grand Cross, etc. I have a Grand Trine in my chart. Actually, I kind of have two? Because my Venus and Mars are Conjunct, not even a full degree apart, and both of them are involved in the Trine. So I have a Moon-Saturn-Venus Trine and a Moon-Saturn-Mars Trine. I also have what I believe is called a Kite shape, because I have Jupiter Semi-Square to Venus/Mars and Saturn, and Jupiter opposing Moon.
So what are some aspects that you guys have?
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Post by Calli on Jul 5, 2014 2:19:42 GMT
There really isn't an "average" number of Aspects - it depends on the Pattern of your Chart. Someone with all their planets in one quadrant will have significantly less aspects than someone with their Planets spread all over the chart.
I think when you have few Aspects, that means you're planets are working more "independently," whereas Aspects make them interact. It causes more dynamics in the character, negative, positive, influential, and not.
I looooove Aspect Patterns! They're more rare, and cool as shit, because they cause multiple planets to interact with each other, sort of locking them in, and adding mroe dynamics.
I think you wouldn't have twooo Trines, per say? (not that I'm an expert) but the way I see it is since you have a Venus and Mars Conjunct they sort of blend into one energy in the Trine, instead them working separately. But that's just me. ^-^
As for myself: I like my Venus Conjunct Midheaven, and Venus Square Mars~
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Post by Os on Jul 6, 2014 5:37:31 GMT
I really don't know enough about aspects but they are SO interesting I have saturn conjunct IC meaning it's also opposing my MC and I literally have no idea what this means (mostly because I'm sort of scared to know...)
Also not sure if this is off-topic but I'm trying to figure out planetary patterns and I'm having a hard time placing in which category my chart would fall into. Most of my planets are spread around the portion that goes from Libra to Capricorn (counterclockwise) then my Moon is in isolated in Gemini. But as I said my Saturn is conjuncting my IC which is Pisces 18º 15' and Saturn is at 19º 20' and I'm not sure what pattern that would be...?
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Post by eleventh on Jul 6, 2014 5:54:55 GMT
I have a Grand Trine in my chart. Actually, I kind of have two? Because my Venus and Mars are Conjunct, not even a full degree apart, and both of them are involved in the Trine. It still is considered as one Grand Trine, except that another planet is adding of its energy in the Grand Trine. So, when you interpret your Grand Trine, you want to take both planets into consideration. c:
Grand Trines can be tricky to interpret anyway, mine is still a puzzle to me. It's a water GT with pluto (6th h.), sun (2nd h.) and moon (11th h.) involved. I don't like how some people interpret Grand Trines as automatically positive and wonderful just because it's a particular aspect. Like, I've read multiple times that GT can help to achieve fame, ... Really ? To me, Grand Trines give facility and great inner resources but it doesn't make us genius or more special. GT helps us in time of crisis, especially. My best friend has an Earth Grand Trine and, man, even in his hardest times he's going to find a way to make money (and not just a bit), to stabilize his life through material gain. It's very impressive. As for me, I always turn to spirituality when facing difficulties. Somehow, I'll feel vulnerable but inside I'll feel solid like a rock because my water GT stabilizes my emotions or even deepens them so it works like a shield for me.
The planets involved in the GT are the ones which initiate that strength by aspecting each other.
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Post by astronoodles on Jul 18, 2014 19:45:41 GMT
Some of my aspects nail me as a (1) drug dealer (2)sexual person. I'm still studying the aspects and know close to nothing about the bigger ones/multiple planets involved. I know only the basic stuff when it comes to aspects! My favorite part of them are the dark aspects and ones to do with the family/house. I am in love with the aspects and houses so..
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Post by Calli on Jul 21, 2014 9:07:21 GMT
Here's more info on the Aspects:
Aspects in Astrology are the geometric angles between the physical locations of the planets. They are measured by degrees. Aspects illustrate how the planets interact with one another within our character – both negatively and positively.
Aspects are categorized as “Major,” “Minor,” “Easy,” and “Hard.”
The Major Aspects are:
Conjunction, Sextile, Square, Trine, and Opposition.
These are also called the “Ptolemic Aspects,” as they are the original 5 he proposed.
The Minor Aspects are:
Semisquare, Sesquisquare, Semisextil, Quintile, Biquintile, and Inconjunct.
These are modern developments for further analyzation. They tend to be less effective in the chart than the Major Aspects.
The “Easy” aspects are:
Sextile, Trine, Quintile, and Biquintile.
These Aspects imply harmonious relations between the planets.
The “Hard” aspects are:
Square, Opposition, Semisquare, Sesquisquare,
These Aspects imply discordant relations between the planets.
Conjunction, Semisextile, and Inconjunct are “neutral,” as they can manifest both negatively and positively, depending on the planets, signs, houses, and other factors.
Each Aspect has an indicated “Orb,” which means allowance of variance. In other words, there’s a certain amount of wiggle room, if the angle isn’t exactly to the degree each Aspect indicates. Each Aspect has an indicated “Orb,” which means allowance of variance. In other words, there’s a certain amount of wiggle room, if the angle isn’t exactly to the degree each Aspect indicates. What that means is if your Moon is in 23° Pisces and your Venus is in 4° Virgo, they are not in Opposition, because they are 160° apart.
The Major Aspects
Conjunction
Zero degree aspect, a “neutral’ aspect, as it can be good or bad – the nature of the planets are doubled, so both the positive and negative traits and increased. The energies are united, and are blended, and therefor act together. The closer they are to conjunction, the more subjective these energies are. They have a difficult time acknowledging each other as separate or distinct, which can cause them to act as a blind spot in some cases.
Orb: 9 degrees when involved with the Sun or Moon, 7 with Mercury, Venus and Mars, 9 with Jupiter and Saturn, 5 with Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Symbol: A single circle, with a single line stemming off. This implies a single location, wherein multiple energies lie. (Compare to the symbol of the Opposition).
Sextile
60 degree aspect, an “easy” aspect. Sextiles, like Trines, point to some talent and ease. However, Sextiles are the stronger of the two. While Trines come so easily people that they may need to be reminded of said talents or tendencies, Sextiles are a little more overt to the native. These are talents we appreciate in ourselves, and are often inclined to strive towards improvement. Sextiles point to energies that are capable of being directed, and reveal the potential for intelligent use of those energies.
Orb: 5 degrees Orb allowed when involved with the Luminaries and Planets. degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Symbol: an Asterisk, representing the 60 degree angles.
Square
90 degree aspect, a “hard” aspect. Represents internal conflict. The Square creates tension between the planets and points involved. Tension is necessary to simulate action, but too much tension creates stress. The planets involved in a Square are acting at cross purposes, as very different energies strike one another perpendicularly. However, Squares do force us out of smugness and help us get the ball rolling. Squares are usually most difficult when we are young, as they force us to grow and learn our lessons.
Orb: 9 degrees when involved with the Sun or Moon, 7 with Mercury, Venus and Mars, 9 with Jupiter and Saturn, 5 with Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Symbol: This is very straightforward – it’s simply a square, representing both the name, and the 90 degree angle of this aspect.
Trine
120 degree aspect, an “easy aspect.” These planets are supporting one another. They allow us to accept others and situations. The talents that Trines offer are often so natural to us that they go unnoticed, and often aren’t truly appreciated and therefore remain undeveloped. However, these talents are thoroughly second nature to us and completely natural.
Orb: 9 degrees when involved with the Sun or Moon, 7 with Mercury, Venus and Mars, 9 with Jupiter and Saturn, 5 with Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Symbol: the symbol is a Triangle, which correlates with the name, and the 120 degree angles that compose this geometrical shape.
Opposition
180 degree aspect, a “hard” aspect. Often, oppositions cause us to swing from one side to the other and feel torn between options and even different sides of ourselves. Oppositions represent a state of divided loyalties, and inner discontent, uncertainty, and insecurity can be a result. While a Square is urgent and courageous, and Opposition is unsure and wavering. People with oppositions seek out others, as if to mirror their own internal struggles. They learn about themselves through interactions with others. Oppositions allow us to see the other side and therefore be skilled negotiators.
Orb: 9 degrees when involved with the Sun or Moon, 7 with Mercury, Venus and Mars, 9 with Jupiter and Saturn, 5 with Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Symbol: There are two circles, connected by a line. This represents two objects resting on opposite sides of the Chart. (Compare to the symbol of the Conjunction).
Difference between Sextile and Trine
Both are “easy” aspects, and represent two functions working smoothly together. Trines are so natural they often go unnoticed, whereas Sextiles are overt. The Trine’s expression is very natural and automatic, while energies of the Sextile can be drawn upon if needed. With Trines, the energies tend to flow naturally into constructive channels, whereas with Sextiles, a conscious effort is needed to push energies into productive directions.
Difference between Opposition and Square
Squares create tension that demand action, and Oppositions tend to seek out relationships with others to work out tension. Oppositions usually occur with compatible elements, whereas Square occur in “incompatible” elements.
The Minor Aspects
Semisquare
45 degrees. The symbol is straightforward – 45 degree angle.
Disharmonious. Similar effects of a Square, but not as strong or prominent.
Orb: 3 degrees when involved with the Luminaries and planets. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Sesquisquare
135 degrees. The symbol is a square, with a 45 degree angle attached to the bottom.
Disharmonious. Similar effects of an Opposition, but not as strong or prominent.
Orb: 3 degrees when involved with the Luminaries and planets. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Semisextile
30 degrees. This is a line, with the top portion divided into three 30 degree portions.
This is a neutral position. It falls between a Conjunction and a Sextile, and can take on similar features as either.
Orb: 3 degrees when involved with the Luminaries and planets. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Inconjunct
Also called Quincunx.
150 degrees. This is a line, with the bottom portion divided into three 30 degree portions.
This is a neutral position. It falls between a Trine and an Opposition, and can take on similar features as either.
Orb: 3 degrees when involved with the Luminaries and planets. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Quintile
72 degrees. The symbol is simply a “Q.”
Harmonious. It takes on similar traits as a Sextile, but not as strong or prominent.
Orb: 1 degree when involved with the Luminaries and planets. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
Biquintile
144 degrees. The symbol is simply a “b” and a “Q.”
Harmonious. It takes on similar traits as a Trine, but not as strong or prominent.
Orb: 1 degree when involved with the Luminaries and planets. 0 degrees Orb allotted to the Nodes, Ascendant, or Midheaven.
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Post by (♇)luto on Oct 18, 2014 21:04:08 GMT
Lately I've been into looking at aspects more, rather than signs and houses the planets are in. It's interesting how planets can effect each other and put a spin on how it may behave in a natal chart. I think it was on Astro.com, where you can get a nice little aspect chart made up for yourself, It covers planetary aspects as well as aspects to The first and 10th house, would be interesting to see others for the rest of the houses and asteroids etc too tho. Here is mine below.
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